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	<title>Comments on: Only One of These Things Isn’t Like the Other</title>
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		<title>By: Michael P</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael P]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2010 08:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I found this blog and this particular post thanks to a black/latina woman I met on OKCupid who&#039;s pretty much had the same experience as yourself and, well, myself. I&#039;m a fairly attractive 26-year-old black male professional and pretty much get shut down on that site. I get a few profile views each day but practically no unsolicited messages. What&#039;s more is--the response rate to messages I send is dismally low, even if the recipient has indicated her interest by rating my attractiveness highly. I realize that my experience hasn&#039;t been as controlled an experiment as your own  but have also heard anecdotes from other attractive, educated blacks indicating that their profiles are routinely dismissed by OKCupid&#039;s white majority. I can&#039;t say that I wasn&#039;t expecting this to happen--it&#039;s pretty much been the case my entire life, as I&#039;ve attended predominantly white institutions of learning where the selection of women has been mostly white. I&#039;d get passed over in these places, too, even though many of these women would candidly tell me how attractive they found me to be.

I posed a question in my OKCupid journal, basically inquiring as to why this sort of racial bias exists on the site. One person--a 30-year-old white woman--took the time to posit her theory. She presumes that much of the problem does stem from a quiet racism that persists among whites--a racism which basically degrades the perceived value of persons of color within the context of a romantic relationship and thus increases the likelihood of their dismissal. Her theory, which has long been held by myself, is that a) the racist views are transported from one of whites to another through family and community and b) the media helps to perpetuate the perception that whites are the mainstream.

An example of the latter point: the media portrays whites in lead roles for much the same reason as cartoon animals are anthropomorphized--so that they might better depict an image to which a mainstream audience can relate; that said, even if those movie roles call for a non-white person in the lead (e.g., Prince of Persia [2010]), a white person is cast in the role (e.g., Jake Gyllenhaal), because the goal of movie companies is to sell tickets, and the best way to sell tickets is to appeal to the largest, most widely-accesible customer demographic. Within the United States, that demographic happens to consist of people of European descent. In India, Indians are that majority, and thus, Indian movies feature Indian actors and actresses in key roles. Anyway, I think that part of why non-whites are regularly dismissed on sites like OKCupid is that whites tend to be regarded as the ideal, because that’s what society feeds to us.

Unlike yourself, this frustrates me nearly to the point of abject bitterness. I’m 26-years-old and feel completely isolated--especially in the area in which I reside (Minneapolis, MN). Whites are probably 80% of the population. I know that there are blacks who seem to get along just fine with everyone, regardless of their color, but I find it difficult and altogether disingenuous to play to the crowd; I know who I am, what I’m about, and that ought to be sufficient for me to get along well in this world, because I’m a pretty good guy. Still, human beings are social creatures, and I’ve always felt as though I’ve been experiencing a sort of social death whereby I’m unable to connect with my peer group or have a normal life because I just don’t fit in due to racial boundaries. I’m willing to admit that my thinking may be flawed, but I know what it feels like for others to simply wish that you did not exist.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found this blog and this particular post thanks to a black/latina woman I met on OKCupid who&#8217;s pretty much had the same experience as yourself and, well, myself. I&#8217;m a fairly attractive 26-year-old black male professional and pretty much get shut down on that site. I get a few profile views each day but practically no unsolicited messages. What&#8217;s more is&#8211;the response rate to messages I send is dismally low, even if the recipient has indicated her interest by rating my attractiveness highly. I realize that my experience hasn&#8217;t been as controlled an experiment as your own  but have also heard anecdotes from other attractive, educated blacks indicating that their profiles are routinely dismissed by OKCupid&#8217;s white majority. I can&#8217;t say that I wasn&#8217;t expecting this to happen&#8211;it&#8217;s pretty much been the case my entire life, as I&#8217;ve attended predominantly white institutions of learning where the selection of women has been mostly white. I&#8217;d get passed over in these places, too, even though many of these women would candidly tell me how attractive they found me to be.</p>
<p>I posed a question in my OKCupid journal, basically inquiring as to why this sort of racial bias exists on the site. One person&#8211;a 30-year-old white woman&#8211;took the time to posit her theory. She presumes that much of the problem does stem from a quiet racism that persists among whites&#8211;a racism which basically degrades the perceived value of persons of color within the context of a romantic relationship and thus increases the likelihood of their dismissal. Her theory, which has long been held by myself, is that a) the racist views are transported from one of whites to another through family and community and b) the media helps to perpetuate the perception that whites are the mainstream.</p>
<p>An example of the latter point: the media portrays whites in lead roles for much the same reason as cartoon animals are anthropomorphized&#8211;so that they might better depict an image to which a mainstream audience can relate; that said, even if those movie roles call for a non-white person in the lead (e.g., Prince of Persia [2010]), a white person is cast in the role (e.g., Jake Gyllenhaal), because the goal of movie companies is to sell tickets, and the best way to sell tickets is to appeal to the largest, most widely-accesible customer demographic. Within the United States, that demographic happens to consist of people of European descent. In India, Indians are that majority, and thus, Indian movies feature Indian actors and actresses in key roles. Anyway, I think that part of why non-whites are regularly dismissed on sites like OKCupid is that whites tend to be regarded as the ideal, because that’s what society feeds to us.</p>
<p>Unlike yourself, this frustrates me nearly to the point of abject bitterness. I’m 26-years-old and feel completely isolated&#8211;especially in the area in which I reside (Minneapolis, MN). Whites are probably 80% of the population. I know that there are blacks who seem to get along just fine with everyone, regardless of their color, but I find it difficult and altogether disingenuous to play to the crowd; I know who I am, what I’m about, and that ought to be sufficient for me to get along well in this world, because I’m a pretty good guy. Still, human beings are social creatures, and I’ve always felt as though I’ve been experiencing a sort of social death whereby I’m unable to connect with my peer group or have a normal life because I just don’t fit in due to racial boundaries. I’m willing to admit that my thinking may be flawed, but I know what it feels like for others to simply wish that you did not exist.</p>
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		<title>By: Paige Jennifer</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paige Jennifer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:33:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Your findings, while disappointing, aren&#039;t shocking.  I once dated a guy who refused to eat fish because it tasted fishy.  I argued that only OLD fish tastes fishy and, more importantly, ruling out the entire ocean was silly seeing shrimp and smoked salmon taste nothing alike.  He still refused to try any of it.

Some people prefer to exist in a sheltered box that lacks interest and curiosity. They are the same people who have no interest in visiting France because they saw &quot;Paris&quot; on their last trip to Vegas.  They are also the same people who prefer Olive Garden and Chilis to (insert name of tasty local eatery here).

You, my dear, deserve someone who thinks outside the box, not someone who lives in it.

&lt;strong&gt;I think people with this type of myopia live in a mental prison not a box... and thank you.&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your findings, while disappointing, aren&#8217;t shocking.  I once dated a guy who refused to eat fish because it tasted fishy.  I argued that only OLD fish tastes fishy and, more importantly, ruling out the entire ocean was silly seeing shrimp and smoked salmon taste nothing alike.  He still refused to try any of it.</p>
<p>Some people prefer to exist in a sheltered box that lacks interest and curiosity. They are the same people who have no interest in visiting France because they saw &#8220;Paris&#8221; on their last trip to Vegas.  They are also the same people who prefer Olive Garden and Chilis to (insert name of tasty local eatery here).</p>
<p>You, my dear, deserve someone who thinks outside the box, not someone who lives in it.</p>
<p><strong>I think people with this type of myopia live in a mental prison not a box&#8230; and thank you.</strong></p>
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		<title>By: jamy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jamy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Your mini-experiment is rather similar to the paired-testing method HUD uses to find discrimination in the housing market (I&#039;ll spare you the details). In short, I&#039;m almost certain that what you found is true &quot;disparate treatment.&quot; You have an even better test, actually, because the &quot;qualifications&quot; are exactly the same on both profiles and the only thing that varied is race.

Hey everyone: IT IS RACIST TO REJECT PEOPLE SOLELY BECAUSE OF RACE. In fact, isn&#039;t that the very definition of racism?

Sorry for the painful realization. Our society really sucks sometimes.

&lt;strong&gt;It wasn&#039;t a realization, more like confirmation of a suspicion.  &lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your mini-experiment is rather similar to the paired-testing method HUD uses to find discrimination in the housing market (I&#8217;ll spare you the details). In short, I&#8217;m almost certain that what you found is true &#8220;disparate treatment.&#8221; You have an even better test, actually, because the &#8220;qualifications&#8221; are exactly the same on both profiles and the only thing that varied is race.</p>
<p>Hey everyone: IT IS RACIST TO REJECT PEOPLE SOLELY BECAUSE OF RACE. In fact, isn&#8217;t that the very definition of racism?</p>
<p>Sorry for the painful realization. Our society really sucks sometimes.</p>
<p><strong>It wasn&#8217;t a realization, more like confirmation of a suspicion.  </strong></p>
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		<title>By: Alice</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alice]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[one of the things i thought was interesting from that okcupid analysis they did on their own members was that it wasn&#039;t just that women were not writing black men; it was that white men got more views / responses / etc than other men from women of ALL races.  they were getting messages from black, asian, &amp; hispanic women, while those same women were practically ignoring everyone else on the site, even members of their own race.  i&#039;m not sure what the conclusion there is, except the one that you&#039;ve already made: apparently it&#039;s a lot easier to be a white guy on an online dating site than.. well.. any other guy.

&lt;strong&gt;I wish I had the proper words to pontificate on the self-loathing that contributes to your point.&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>one of the things i thought was interesting from that okcupid analysis they did on their own members was that it wasn&#8217;t just that women were not writing black men; it was that white men got more views / responses / etc than other men from women of ALL races.  they were getting messages from black, asian, &amp; hispanic women, while those same women were practically ignoring everyone else on the site, even members of their own race.  i&#8217;m not sure what the conclusion there is, except the one that you&#8217;ve already made: apparently it&#8217;s a lot easier to be a white guy on an online dating site than.. well.. any other guy.</p>
<p><strong>I wish I had the proper words to pontificate on the self-loathing that contributes to your point.</strong></p>
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		<title>By: liz</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[liz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[fascinating . . . someone could write a PhD thesis on this.  i have a friend who met his wife on eHarmony (or something like it), and he did NOT put in his profile that he is blind.  he didn&#039;t want women to immediately write him off just because he can&#039;t see.  they&#039;ve been happily married for over a year.

&lt;strong&gt;I know you didn&#039;t mean to equate non-whiteness with a physical challenge/disability, but it is so sad that the analogy works on some levels when it comes to dating.&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fascinating . . . someone could write a PhD thesis on this.  i have a friend who met his wife on eHarmony (or something like it), and he did NOT put in his profile that he is blind.  he didn&#8217;t want women to immediately write him off just because he can&#8217;t see.  they&#8217;ve been happily married for over a year.</p>
<p><strong>I know you didn&#8217;t mean to equate non-whiteness with a physical challenge/disability, but it is so sad that the analogy works on some levels when it comes to dating.</strong></p>
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		<title>By: elle dubya</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[elle dubya]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 03:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[one day it won&#039;t matter, one day the option to filter one versus the other out won&#039;t even be there.  i hope i&#039;m alive on that day.

&lt;strong&gt;What kinda chaps my ass about this is that OKC didn&#039;t always have the ability to search based upon or in exclusion to race.  It was added a few months ago as part of an &quot;upgrade.&quot;  That&#039;s what makes the prior comment so odious to me.  A race based search would imply that people of a certain stripe are so unattractive that you don&#039;t even want them to appear in your search results.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>one day it won&#8217;t matter, one day the option to filter one versus the other out won&#8217;t even be there.  i hope i&#8217;m alive on that day.</p>
<p><strong>What kinda chaps my ass about this is that OKC didn&#8217;t always have the ability to search based upon or in exclusion to race.  It was added a few months ago as part of an &#8220;upgrade.&#8221;  That&#8217;s what makes the prior comment so odious to me.  A race based search would imply that people of a certain stripe are so unattractive that you don&#8217;t even want them to appear in your search results.<br />
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		<title>By: anon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[anon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:45:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just because someone doesn&#039;t want to date out of their own race doesn&#039;t make them racist.

&lt;strong&gt;Your comment would have so much more credibility if it hadn&#039;t been left anonymously.  Why do you feel the need to be anonymous?  Go back and reread the post because I didn&#039;t accuse anyone specific of any specific thing.

Sure there might be legitimate and non-race related reason for a some people to choose to date exclusively within one race or another.  But there is a distinct difference when the aggregate population responds in one way or another.  

Don&#039;t wish to engage in this conversation via comment and reply?  I&#039;d be happy to have it via email at your leisure.

ETA: the prior anon comment isn&#039;t more valid because of her agreement, but because there was an actual email address and some thought rather than a blanket statement that seemingly ignored the argument put forth.&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just because someone doesn&#8217;t want to date out of their own race doesn&#8217;t make them racist.</p>
<p><strong>Your comment would have so much more credibility if it hadn&#8217;t been left anonymously.  Why do you feel the need to be anonymous?  Go back and reread the post because I didn&#8217;t accuse anyone specific of any specific thing.</p>
<p>Sure there might be legitimate and non-race related reason for a some people to choose to date exclusively within one race or another.  But there is a distinct difference when the aggregate population responds in one way or another.  </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t wish to engage in this conversation via comment and reply?  I&#8217;d be happy to have it via email at your leisure.</p>
<p>ETA: the prior anon comment isn&#8217;t more valid because of her agreement, but because there was an actual email address and some thought rather than a blanket statement that seemingly ignored the argument put forth.</strong></p>
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		<title>By: Race, Response, and Dating Websites &#187; Sociological Images</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Race, Response, and Dating Websites &#187; Sociological Images]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] more, read Restaurant Refugee&#8217;s experiment comparing  responses on EHarmony to an identical profile with pictures of a white person and a [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: f.B</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[f.B]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I had a professor once ask me how far we should be willing to go for &quot;the cause.&quot;  At the heart of the question was how much any person should be asked to make his/her decisions about love with an eye towards racial harmony. And we couldn&#039;t personalize it; we couldn&#039;t say we should make our own decisions that way and so couldn&#039;t ask anyone else to do so.

And that was the most frustrating part; the realization of a problem that feels completely out of our control.

&lt;strong&gt;To some extent, problems without solutions aren&#039;t really problems and thus not worth to much thought. &lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a professor once ask me how far we should be willing to go for &#8220;the cause.&#8221;  At the heart of the question was how much any person should be asked to make his/her decisions about love with an eye towards racial harmony. And we couldn&#8217;t personalize it; we couldn&#8217;t say we should make our own decisions that way and so couldn&#8217;t ask anyone else to do so.</p>
<p>And that was the most frustrating part; the realization of a problem that feels completely out of our control.</p>
<p><strong>To some extent, problems without solutions aren&#8217;t really problems and thus not worth to much thought. </strong></p>
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		<title>By: Jean</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jean]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s an accurate, but unfortunate observation.  Arbitrary nonsense like that is ridiculous.  When will people ever learn?

&lt;strong&gt;We have to have faith, right?&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s an accurate, but unfortunate observation.  Arbitrary nonsense like that is ridiculous.  When will people ever learn?</p>
<p><strong>We have to have faith, right?</strong></p>
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